tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post1186552360717234024..comments2024-03-28T22:33:33.687-07:00Comments on She Just Walks Around With It: Kiki's Quest, or "Why I Hate The Video Gaming Industry" or even "Why Does The Video Game Industry Hate Women?"kristyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00879301751663532121noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-89717791498945062232009-11-30T20:37:00.177-08:002009-11-30T20:37:00.177-08:00There was some very useful info here, thank you.
...There was some very useful info here, thank you.<br /><br />I hope that one day I will have enough resources to make game which takes your opinion into account.SegFaulthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15188291661092699245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-71960072281514602742009-02-15T22:50:00.000-08:002009-02-15T22:50:00.000-08:00Thanks for the tips, ladies. I remember the old ga...Thanks for the tips, ladies. <BR/>I remember the old games like Kiki mentioned that we would play as a group and have also found them hard to find these days. <BR/>I'm now the only guy in a bunch of Wii freaks, and lots of it is fun but I miss the solid story, characters, and problem solving of those old games.Keith Alan Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02240947048783657561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-19850705237584749382009-02-14T19:56:00.000-08:002009-02-14T19:56:00.000-08:00Oh my God, how I loved Kings Quest and Space Quest...Oh my God, how I loved Kings Quest and Space Quest! We had an Amiga computer that we played them on when I was little. <BR/><BR/>But I never enjoyed another video game since then, up until recently. I now have a Wii and like the Wii Fit games, but my favorite, favorite game is World of Goo, which is WiiWare, meaning you can buy it right from your console (it is about $15). It is so incredibly smart and creative; I absolutely love this game. If you like figuring things out, you will really like it.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16349765563150981854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-87394045733764095352009-02-11T11:29:00.000-08:002009-02-11T11:29:00.000-08:00There are games out there that would appeal to you...There are games out there that would appeal to your requirements. I think the problem is that you haven't clearly defined what you want.<BR/><BR/>"Video games for women" is just as generic as "video games for men." It starts with the assumption that women don't want to play war games or first person shooters. It doesn't sound like you do, but there is a whole universe outside of that and plenty of women who enjoy those games. One of my female friends in the Air Force is in several all-female "frag leagues."<BR/><BR/>Do you like simulations? Sims, Sims2, Sims3 coming out, Urbz, Animal Crossing, Harvest Moon, the _ Tycoon franchise... and that's barely scratching the surface. A lot of people categorize these as feminine games, but I've traded types with many male gamers about each of these titles.<BR/><BR/>Do you like mystery or adventure games with challenges embedded in the landscape (like Myst)? You've gotten a lot of good suggestions in that category. I don't think of these as being male or female. My husband and I played the Monkey Island games together, and Grim Fandango, and Hercule Poirot mysteries, and Sam & Max.<BR/><BR/>Do you like puzzle games (Tetris, Bejeweled, Solitaire etc)? My mom has a DS and plays only puzzle games. A 60 something priest is no one's idea of a "typical" gamer, much less a typical female gamer, and yet any time she wants a game I can find literally stacks of them because I know what she wants beyond "something that isn't for men."<BR/><BR/>In short, the games are there but you need to know your own tastes and how those relate to gaming industry categories. This isn't anti-woman anymore than expecting someone to know what genre of music they like would be sexist. Rock isn't "for men" and country isn't "for women." Each category of game markets for its audience differently. Big budget shooter games advertise on TV because the kind of person who plays them probably watches a lot of TV and has a gaming console. Simulation and puzzle games advertise in magazines and with banner ads because their players are a different market, not a different gender.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-41839454437078497782009-02-05T22:19:00.000-08:002009-02-05T22:19:00.000-08:00Enjanerd is right. Super Paper Mario is loads of f...Enjanerd is right. Super Paper Mario is loads of fun. The gameplay itself if awesome, and there's an interesting plot behind it that is revealed in pieces the further you get into the game. Spore is just awesome. It's evolution--you start as a single cell and work your way up by improving your creature. Zelda for Wii is really fun. It's not as impossible as the older ones, and it's absolutely beautiful graphically.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-31000803926957622642009-01-29T06:29:00.000-08:002009-01-29T06:29:00.000-08:00Oh, and on the computer game side, check out Spore...Oh, and on the computer game side, check out Spore.enjanerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13178249099711034027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-71028203948455311922009-01-29T06:25:00.000-08:002009-01-29T06:25:00.000-08:00There are lots of games for the Wii that are marke...There are lots of games for the Wii that are marketed for non-traditional gamers. I'm hooked on Animal Crossing, but I won't even try to explain why. There's no storyline or point; it's just excessively cute.<BR/><BR/>Looking for Myst-like puzzles w/ a simple storyline: Super Paper Mario. The different levels require you to do things like switch from 2D to 3D mode to get around what looks like an impenetrable wall (they definitely get more complex than that). I've heard good things about Super Mario Galaxy and Zelda, though I haven't played them myself.enjanerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13178249099711034027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-69407124743372132452009-01-28T22:45:00.000-08:002009-01-28T22:45:00.000-08:00I have to admit I'm a little surprised that you pl...I have to admit I'm a little surprised that you play video games Kristy. Not because they are bad, but they are a huge time sink. I used to play, and I am totally with you about companies making games more suited to both sexes. I don't know, these days, at least for me, spending hours alone with a game, time which can't even be called couple bonding time, isn't worth it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-77229391477212233982009-01-28T06:17:00.000-08:002009-01-28T06:17:00.000-08:00ah...you mean those boring games???yup...they do i...ah...<BR/>you mean those boring games???<BR/>yup...<BR/>they do it! :)<BR/><BR/>xxxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-63524239997589886132009-01-27T22:21:00.000-08:002009-01-27T22:21:00.000-08:00Holy Crap. I had no idea you played king's Quest! ...Holy Crap. I had no idea you played king's Quest! We must talk about thisAunt Bunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728562383898934432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-50465577116336422432009-01-27T16:44:00.000-08:002009-01-27T16:44:00.000-08:00I loved Alice! I also liked Baldur's Gate and I us...I loved Alice! I also liked Baldur's Gate and I usurped my bf's Age of Empires series... <BR/><BR/>And I must say I'm also a WoWnut. I play a troll andwhile there is some "killing" there is also tons of lore, quests, raids, storylines, interaction and pretty shiny things. I think the game is different for every class you play... or what kind of server. In that way it is definately more engaging than Grand Theft Auto.<BR/><BR/>My cousins have me addicted to Wii to to the point that I may have to go get one. <BR/><BR/>but you're right. I'd like to see somemore plot-oriented, character-driven games out there for us females!Khalihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325816102612197430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-83416498836650102352009-01-27T13:37:00.000-08:002009-01-27T13:37:00.000-08:00I have been lamenting this fact since I finished t...I have been lamenting this fact since I finished the last Kings Quest (Perils of Rosella?) - and to no avail. People at video game places always tell me that Castlevania will be what I want. NO. You could try the Lara Croft ones - they are terrific but I have no idea how to stop her from running into walls. They are almost entirely puzzles.<BR/><BR/>OH, and you MUST try Alice!! it's a few years old but AWESOME - Alice in a bad nightmare wonderland. It's ALL puzzles and stuff. My husband and I played it nonstop. Seriously, try that one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-23587174099315252202009-01-27T10:32:00.000-08:002009-01-27T10:32:00.000-08:00The game industry sucks because it is so hard to m...The game industry sucks because it is so hard to make games. There is not enough competition and it is very hard for independent game developers to make games.<BR/><BR/>If it was easier to make games you would have independent female game developers making games for women and the increased competition would push games in better territory.<BR/><BR/>I used to work at various game studios, two you might have heard of are Hypnotix and EA. Anyway, the reason that video game writing sucks is because there are very few professional writers employed at video game companies. It is mostly whoever is in charge of that area writes the dialog, story, etc.<BR/><BR/>The sad thing, is I read an article three years ago "called don't make games pink" or something, that basically echoed what you said verbatim. But most of the owners of video game companies, like Epic, they make games for themselves. And they're not women.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-32091984680680264432009-01-27T08:27:00.000-08:002009-01-27T08:27:00.000-08:00So this might be lame, but as a chick - I am hooke...So this might be lame, but as a chick - I am hooked on Tiger Woods PGA and have been for the last three years. It's also the sole reason I purchased an Xbox360.<BR/>I don't golf in real life, but the game is super fun AND it does inspire me to try it for realz..the only thing holding me back is my bustline (38DD) Have you ever tried to mini golf with tata-tatas like that?! I can't imagine trying to drive a ball!<BR/><BR/>Also, the Wii has super fun games too, great for entertaining and family friendly.<BR/><BR/>The SIMS and MYST are classic and always fun...I wish they made another MYST - that game drove me nuts!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-64791929924282108212009-01-27T04:57:00.000-08:002009-01-27T04:57:00.000-08:00Hi! I've read your blog for a long time and never...Hi! I've read your blog for a long time and never responded, but this post I had to chime in... I bought a Wii for my girls for Christmas and immediately upon purchase had a flash back of calloused thumbs and bleary vision from playing the original Zelda for hours, days, weeks during high school. (And let me say that my girls have had a PS2 for several years and I have yet to pick up a controller...) After I came to post-flashback I raced on two wheels to the local gamestop, praying there was an updated version for the Wii. My kids opened "their" Wii on Christmas morning, I hooked it up the next day and, friends, as of today I have over 70 hours logged on my profile. (not really sure if I'm endorsing this game or reaching out for a support group) In short, it has every element you're looking for, but buyer beware, it is seriously addicting and things like social interaction become secondary...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-79205510368840367052009-01-26T13:22:00.000-08:002009-01-26T13:22:00.000-08:00I am totally hooked on Animal Crossing: City Folk ...I am totally hooked on Animal Crossing: City Folk on the Wii, but I have to say, beyond that, it's been a challenge for my fiance and I to find games we could both like and play together. And does he really need ONE MORE WAR GAME? Agh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-24410281626655407892009-01-26T11:22:00.000-08:002009-01-26T11:22:00.000-08:00Ask Darci. She gets it and makes awesome game rec...Ask Darci. She gets it and makes awesome game recs. (She's the one who got me started on that farming game a couple years back when I couldn't do anything but feed my cartoon cows and grow cartoon carrots.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-46844517052118659282009-01-26T11:21:00.000-08:002009-01-26T11:21:00.000-08:00I really like the Nancy Drew games. Some people th...I really like the Nancy Drew games. Some people think they're cheesy, but I really enjoy the puzzles you have to figure out.<BR/><BR/>I used to love World of Warcraft, but as of lately I have grown addicted to other things (re: The Twilight book series) and haven't played in a while. I know I'll get back into it later, but maybe after a year and a half of non-stop (practically) playing a break is a good thing. With that being said... I do like the game and recommend it, there is always something to do and lots of back-story to learn.<BR/><BR/>For the Alliance!! Gnomes Unite!You can call me, Hammyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11441759772338889695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-70405518009991538822009-01-26T11:05:00.000-08:002009-01-26T11:05:00.000-08:00I enjoyed the mystery solving aspect of Myst, alth...I enjoyed the mystery solving aspect of Myst, although I would have liked it better if it had a different setting. I also remember a game called "Titanic" that was character based... I was only able to play it once due to the limitations of the computer I had back then, but I think it would appeal to you.Favillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05588605139031808034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-24360007268887135262009-01-26T10:49:00.000-08:002009-01-26T10:49:00.000-08:00I loved Syberia too. I would say it's a game for w...I loved Syberia too. I would say it's a game for women and has all of your above requirements. Also, Silent Hill series are really good if you don't mind the scary. Indigo Prophecy also has all of your requirements right up to the sexual tension. If you liked the SIMS you may like Roller Coaster Tycoon. That's for PC, really good.<BR/><BR/>Let us know which ones you got!Dynamitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08844323776684401037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-27312987454581440942009-01-26T09:46:00.000-08:002009-01-26T09:46:00.000-08:00I must be superlame, because the games I have alwa...I must be superlame, because the games I have always loved have been Nintendo. Zelda and Link. Puzzles and using your noggin (or at least memory). In some of them you have to play music, and ride horses! Fairies and goddesses. What's more girly? I want to take a week off work and play. :)Danahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291580830314550176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-25865665288896540262009-01-26T09:34:00.000-08:002009-01-26T09:34:00.000-08:00T-Girl said : "To put it simply, the video gaming ...T-Girl said : "To put it simply, the video gaming industry does not need us. Selling video games to men is like selling candy to children. They are already pre-disposed to like it, want it, and buy it if they can."<BR/><BR/><BR/>I think I'm a guy with boobs then.<BR/>because I can't pass by a gamestop and NOT go in and buy a game. :)<BR/><BR/>The perception that games are "only for men" is just as backwards as the perception that they are "only for children"<BR/><BR/>There are so many games out there that are fascinating and fun regardless of your sex.<BR/><BR/>One example of a game that to me really stands out and resonates is Bioshock. Its based on the ideas of Ayn Rand and is absolutely amazing and beautiful. the world is a gorgeous art deco style.<BR/>Anyone can appreciate the story and the beauty of this game.<BR/><BR/>Honestly I see it like this... Its not that the game industry wants to alienate women, its just that you can't please everyone.<BR/>If a person (male or female) is interested in gaming, they will do their research and find something they like, just like any other hobby. <BR/>I know men that sew and crochet and knit...yet when's the last time you saw these things marketed towards men?<BR/><BR/>Why does there always have to be this divide?<BR/><BR/>Games are games, and they are varied and plentiful, if you want to play, you'll find something to play. <BR/><BR/>There are also plenty of women in the industry..2 that come to mind are Jade Raymond and Cammie Dunaway.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17205088869304005296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-4929570964617714762009-01-26T08:32:00.000-08:002009-01-26T08:32:00.000-08:00To put it simply, the video gaming industry does n...To put it simply, the video gaming industry does not need us. Selling video games to men is like selling candy to children. They are already pre-disposed to like it, want it, and buy it if they can. So when the concept for a new game is being developed, it makes more sense from a marketing standpoint, to try to gain ground in the existing target market than to try to expand the market itself. <BR/>Plus, there a lots of women who are very into some of the games out there already. Putting time, money and effort into developing a game that would be attractive to the average woman just doesn’t make any fiscal sense. And even if these games are out there (as many commenters have mentioned) they are not going to be well marketed to women because the risk of alienating the male dominated market is too great. <BR/>At least that is my personal take on the current state of things. Sigh.T-town Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556481586451667788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-32126850794559357612009-01-26T06:11:00.000-08:002009-01-26T06:11:00.000-08:00Really interesting post. I never thought of it th...Really interesting post. I never thought of it that way. One of my friends is totally obsessed with that stuff.Globetrottingbridehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14195851663105565823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10136851.post-46206866282170423562009-01-26T02:57:00.000-08:002009-01-26T02:57:00.000-08:00I will also suggest Final Fantasy...it's got the s...I will also suggest Final Fantasy...it's got the storyline, puzzles, time-sensitive elements, etc. Plus, the newer versions are graphically beautiful.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15118614507653667016noreply@blogger.com